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| Re: [atheists-215] Penn Science Cafe: The Singularity?When Computers Will Think Like Humans, Wed., Nov 18 - I agree more or less with Anne, but would add a couple of different arguments. First, I don't think we know all there is to know, even theoretically, about the physics of computation. Quantum computation is still in its infancy. As the actual c | Peter | Nov 26, 2009 |
| Re: [atheists-215] Penn Science Cafe: The Singularity?When Computers Will Think Like Humans, Wed., Nov 18 - Preview not available | Anne Hanna | Nov 26, 2009 |
| Re: [atheists-215] Penn Science Cafe: The Singularity?When Computers Will Think Like Humans, Wed., Nov 18 - Preview not available | Dave Mauriello | Nov 25, 2009 |
| Re: [atheists-215] Penn Science Cafe: The Singularity?When Computers Will Think Like Humans, Wed., Nov 18 - Preview not available | Steve Volk | Nov 24, 2009 |
| November Atheists Meetup Recap - I've posted a list of miscellaneous topics and links that came up at the last Thursday's Atheist Meetup. Scientific issues dominated most of my conversations. | George | Nov 23, 2009 |
| Re: [atheists-215] A Very Warm Hi(!) Everybody! And Atheist Prayer? - very well said. --- On Sun, 11/15/09, William wrote: > From: William > Subject: Re: [atheists-215] A Very Warm Hi(!) Everybody! And Atheist Prayer? > To: [address removed] > Date: Sunday, November 15, 2009, 5 | Norm Richmond | Nov 18, 2009 |
| New Event: Greg Epstein to discuss "Good without God" on Penn Campus, Saturday, Nov. 21 - Late Notice: In addition to the earlier venues, Greg Epstein will appear on the University of PA Campus on Saturday afternoon at the | George | Nov 18, 2009 |
| Re: [atheists-215] Penn Science Cafe: The Singularity?When Computers Will Think Like Humans, Wed., Nov 18 - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The difficulty a computer would tend to have with the tiling problem is that proving whether or not you can tile all of space with a particular set of shapes is not readily amenable to solution by straig | Anne Hanna | Nov 16, 2009 |
| RE: [atheists-215] Penn Science Cafe: The Singularity?When Computers Will Think Like Humans, Wed., Nov 18 - Yes, my husband can tile floors. It requires a human touch, some | Janice Rael | Nov 16, 2009 |
| Re: [atheists-215] Penn Science Cafe: The Singularity?When Computers Will Think Like Humans, Wed., Nov 18 - Why would tiling a floor be so difficult? It sounds like the geometry would be pretty straightforward. Has anyone actually tried that? - George ________________________ On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 6:23 PM, Steve Volk | George | Nov 16, 2009 |
| Re: [atheists-215] A Very Warm Hi(!) Everybody! And Atheist Prayer? - Good idea and nice prayer Scotty. Once I was asked to say the thanksgiving grace at a (religious) family gathering. I thanked the chef, the farmers, t | Bill Reitter | Nov 16, 2009 |
| Re: [atheists-215] Penn Science Cafe: The Singularity?When Computers Will Think Like Humans, Wed., Nov 18 - Preview not available | Steve Volk | Nov 15, 2009 |
| Re: [atheists-215] A Very Warm Hi(!) Everybody! And Atheist Prayer? - I agree that a "prayer" implies an entity being prayed to. The archaic word "prithee," short for "I pray thee," means "I enquire of you" or "I ask of you" one thing or another. If a city council feels that some words of wisdom and exhortation to d | William | Nov 15, 2009 |
| Philadelphia Freedom!!!!!! Shine on ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - http://www.youtube.com/wat | Scott Pleune | Nov 15, 2009 |
| Re: [atheists-215] A Very Warm Hi(!) Everybody! And Atheist Prayer? - I usually hate to split hairs on syntax, but "prayer" is just ammunition to calling atheism a religion. As atheists meetings in general are for those of different backgrounds, values and morals to discuss ideas with those that are like-minded and those th | Norm Richmond | Nov 15, 2009 |
| Penn Science Cafe: The Singularity?When Computers Will Think Like Humans, Wed., Nov 18 - Preview not available | George | Nov 15, 2009 |
| Re: [atheists-215] A Very Warm Hi(!) Everybody! And Atheist Prayer? - Hey, I'm Walter, and I'm also new here. I don't think there is anything wrong with an atheist prayer (although the word "prayer" is pretty loaded). A concise, easy-to-remember sentence full of wisdom is always a good thing. | Walter | Nov 15, 2009 |
| Re: [atheists-215] A Very Warm Hi(!) Everybody! And Atheist Prayer? - I think the idea of an atheist prayer is as ridiculous as any other prayer. It's the very idea of an invocation as part of every meeting which is | Dave Mauriello | Nov 15, 2009 |
| A Very Warm Hi(!) Everybody! And Atheist Prayer? - This being my first e-mail to this list | Scott Pleune | Nov 15, 2009 |
| Fwd: Judge Jones Intelligent Design Teach-In at Temple - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Barry Greenstein < [address removed] > Date: Thu, | Barry Greenstein | Nov 12, 2009 |
| Re: [atheists-215] God vs. Santa - Very well said Dave. I would say that an even an athiest can have such feel-good rationalizations in his heart on issues like these, as long as he understands its irrationality in his head. Everyone is entitled to a bit of self-delusion from time to time | Ron | Nov 10, 2009 |
| Re: [atheists-215] God vs. Santa - Deity claims are comparable to other mythical claims (ie - Nessie, Bigfoot, etc) in that they lack demonstrable evidence for their existence, which makes acceptance of them unwarranted. The origins of the claims, what they were intended to addres | Dave Mauriello | Nov 10, 2009 |
| God vs. Santa - >"I'm really an atheist, I don't believe in any >fantasy as a gods, saint claus, rabit that >brings you a chocolate at eastern day etc. I'd >like to meet real atheist people." I am an atheist as well but I've also never liked the argument that | Randy | Nov 10, 2009 |
| Re: [atheists-215] TAKE ME OFF YOUR MAILING LIST!!! - Preview not available | Norm Richmond | Nov 9, 2009 |
Re: [atheists-215] TAKE ME OFF YOUR MAILING LIST!!! - It is a very easy matter to remove yourself from the mailing list. Just go to http://www.meetup.com/account/ comm/ , login and and you will be able to select which items you wish to
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George | Nov 9, 2009 |
| [Fwd: [atheists-215] TAKE ME OFF YOUR MAILING LIST!!!] - Preview not available | Janie Gottfried | Nov 9, 2009 |
| TAKE ME OFF YOUR MAILING LIST!!! - Preview not available | Janie Gottfried | Nov 9, 2009 |
| Re: [atheists-215] sorry - Preview not available | Norm Richmond | Nov 9, 2009 |
| Re: [atheists-215] sorry - Preview not available | Charlotte | Nov 9, 2009 |
| Re: [atheists-215] How to block emails or individuals? - Preview not available | Venk | Nov 6, 2009 |
| RE: [atheists-215] How to block emails or individuals? - | Janice Rael | Nov 6, 2009 |
| Re: [atheists-215] How to block emails or individuals? - Preview not available | Venk | Nov 6, 2009 |
| Re: [atheists-215] How to block emails or individuals? - Janice if you list an individual as spam, your e-mail spam filter will get rid of him/her for you --- On Fri, 11/6/09, Janice Rael wrote: > From: Janice Rael > Subject: [atheists-215] How to block e | Norm Richmond | Nov 6, 2009 |
| Re: [atheists-215] Jay Stadler has been removed from the Atheists Meetup mailing list - Likes this --- On Fri, 11/6/09, Dave Mauriello wrote: > From: Dave Mauriello > Subject: Re: [atheists-215] Jay Stadler has been removed from the Atheists Meetup mailing list | Norm Richmond | Nov 6, 2009 |
| Re: [atheists-215] Jay Stadler has been removed from the Atheists Meetup mailing list - Jay's message was inapropriate. But it was simply the response to several pre | Federico | Nov 6, 2009 |
| How to block emails or individuals? - I went to the Meetup site at | Janice Rael | Nov 6, 2009 |
| Re: [atheists-215] Jay Stadler has been removed from the Atheists Meetup mailing list - Right, well I'm sure classifying it as harassment makes it more palatable to censor. ;) On Nov 6, 2009, at 6:41 P | Dave Mauriello | Nov 6, 2009 |
| Re: [atheists-215] Jay Stadler has been removed from the Atheists Meetup mailing list - Hiya. I've been basically ignoring this entire thing but decided to check in to see exactly what's going on. I understand people may hav | Marcel | Nov 6, 2009 |
| Re: [atheists-215] Jay Stadler has been removed from the AtheistsMeetup mailing list - is everything that interests someone other than you inane? careful, that's banning talk --- On Fri, 11/6/09, James wrote: > From: James > Subject: Re: [atheists-215] Jay Stadler has been remov | Norm Richmond | Nov 6, 2009 |
| Re: [atheists-215] Jay Stadler has been removed from the Atheists Meetup mailing list - I would hope we have rights in a society without laws. Rights should be inherit in Humans, not the judiciary. :) --- On Fri, 11/6/09, Blake Caldwell wrote: > From: Blake Caldwell > Subject: Re: [a | Norm Richmond | Nov 6, 2009 |
| Re: [atheists-215] Jay Stadler has been removed from the AtheistsMeetup mailing list - Preview not available | James | Nov 6, 2009 |
| Re: [atheists-215] Jay Stadler has been removed from the Atheists Meetup mailing list - I dont mean to be argumentative, but I hate when people say "he has the right" - this isn't a legal issue :). The group has a right to ban him. On Nov 6, 2009, at 4:56 PM, Norm Richmond wrote: > By the way, I do not intend to imply I agree wi | Blake Caldwell | Nov 6, 2009 |
| Re: [atheists-215] Jay Stadler has been removed from the Atheists Meetup mailing list - I'm with Norm. Personally choose to block him, but censoring him is crap. Yes, I understand this is a private group and as such we can deny access to people, but honestly, do we want to go down that route? That's a dark road, my friends. | Dave Mauriello | Nov 6, 2009 |
| Re: [atheists-215] Jay Stadler has been removed from the Atheists Meetup mailing list - I'm personally glad you booted him. He wasn't disagreeing, he wasn't contributing, he was spamming a large group of people. You get booted for spamming. This is how the internet works, and rightfully so, considering how easy it is to spam i | Dan | Nov 6, 2009 |
| Re: [atheists-215] Jay Stadler has been removed from the Atheists Meetup mailing list - George, I hope this isn't too much of a tangent, and I am finished commenting on it, except "in one's home or establishment, one has every right to set rules", but when you deleted him from the list, you set the rules in my house for me. Had a prep | Norm Richmond | Nov 6, 2009 |
| Re: [atheists-215] Jay Stadler has been removed from the Atheists Meetup mailing list - Again, just playing devil's advocate, not supporting his cause... --- On Fri, 11/6/09, Ferit T?zer wrote: > From: Ferit T?zer > Subject: Re: [atheists-215] Jay Stadler has been removed from the Atheists Meetup | Norm Richmond | Nov 6, 2009 |
| Re: [atheists-215] Jay Stadler has been removed from the Atheists Meetup mailing list - First off, it's temporary. There's a difference between a discussion and a shouting match. I feel strongly in everyone being able to express an opinion whether valid or not, polite or rude. If we block those that we disagree with, | George | Nov 6, 2009 |
| Re: [atheists-215] Jay Stadler has been removed from the Atheists Meetup mailing list - Norm, I think everyone here would agree not to have swearing in the email list. It's not like we're suspending his citizenship rights, he won't be able to use an email list that he abused, that's all. On F | Ferit Tüzer | Nov 6, 2009 |
| Re: [atheists-215] Jay Stadler has been removed from the Atheists Meetup mailing list - By the way, I do not intend to imply I agree with him in any way, he's a tool. It's just that he has a right to be a tool. --- On Fri, 11/6/09, George wrote: > From: George > Subject: [atheists-215] Jay | Norm Richmond | Nov 6, 2009 |
| Re: [atheists-215] Jay Stadler has been removed from the Atheists Meetup mailing list - Just to play devil's advocate, we could block Jay Sandler ourselves, I understand if he's broken some rules but we're all adults here and should be able to put up with a little abuse. He may be just expressing some frustration, in a poor manner granted, b | Norm Richmond | Nov 6, 2009 |
| Jay Stadler has been removed from the Atheists Meetup mailing list - Because of his abusive and uncivil language, I have temporarily removed this member from the mailing list. I really expected better behavior. I'm fine with discussions and disagreements, but this type of disrespectful behavior is unacceptabl | George | Nov 6, 2009 |
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Re: [atheists-215] Stop spamming this distribution list - I've removed Jay from the Mailing List. This is enough nonsense. I really want a responsible and adult discussion group here, or none at all. - George Assistant organizer. ______________________________
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George | Nov 6, 2009 |
| Re: [atheists-215] sorry - Preview not available | Jay Stadler | Nov 6, 2009 |
| Re: [atheists-215] Stop spamming this distribution list - Do you realize you are sending these inane emails to like 200 people. STOP, you idiot. On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Jay Stadler < sadv | James | Nov 6, 2009 |
| Re: [atheists-215] Stop spamming this distribution list - Oh, and go back to believing in god. I don.t want you on my team. On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Jason Stadler < [address removed] > wrote: | Jay Stadler | Nov 6, 2009 |
| Re: [atheists-215] Stop spamming this distribution list - Oops I spelled... well you know. Dick. On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Jason Stadler < [address removed] > wrote: | Jay Stadler | Nov 6, 2009 |
| Re: [atheists-215] Stop spamming this distribution list - Sorry I spilled atheists wrong. On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Jason Stadler < [address removed] > wrote: | Jay Stadler | Nov 6, 2009 |
| Re: [atheists-215] Stop spamming this distribution list - You just spamed me with this stupid message. I thought Athiests were smarter people. On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 12:42 AM, Leonardo < [address removed] > | Jay Stadler | Nov 6, 2009 |
| Re: [atheists-215] Stop spamming this distribution list - These e-mails may not be what's intended on this service, but I find them interesting. | Bobby | Nov 3, 2009 |
| FW: More information about the Self-Uniting Marriage License - I am forwarding a follow-up answer to my initial announcement for infor | Janice Rael | Nov 3, 2009 |
| Re: [atheists-215] Stop spamming this distribution list - Actually you will get Meetup announcements anyway if you unsubscribe from the general mailing list. - George Assistant Organizer. _____________ On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Blake Caldwell < | George | Nov 3, 2009 |
| Re: [atheists-215] Stop spamming this distribution list - Preview not available | Janie Gottfried | Nov 3, 2009 |
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RE: [atheists-215] Stop spamming this distribution list - To the organizers: Take a look at Google Groups:
http://groups.google.com/grphp?hl=en
This is great for discussion and solves the email problem.
-----Original Message-----
From: [address removed] [mailto:[address removed]] On Behalf Of
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Mike | Nov 3, 2009 |
| RE: [atheists-215] Stop spamming this distribution list - | Silverwolf | Nov 3, 2009 |
| RE: [atheists-215] Stop spamming this distribution list - | Venk | Nov 3, 2009 |
| RE: [atheists-215] Stop spamming this distribution list - | Venk | Nov 3, 2009 |
| RE: [atheists-215] Stop spamming this distribution list - | Venk | Nov 3, 2009 |
| Re: [atheists-215] Stop spamming this distribution list - No - I'm not. I keep seperate email addresses for business and personal matters. Sorry to annoy you. On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 9:09 AM, James | Lani Bartman | Nov 3, 2009 |
| Re: [atheists-215] Stop spamming this distribution list - | John J Devlin | Nov 3, 2009 |
| Re: [atheists-215] Stop spamming this distribution list - Its very easy really. At the bottom of most messages, you will see a link like To unsubscribe or to update your mailing list settings, click here Go there and change the ema | Ron | Nov 3, 2009 |
| Re: [atheists-215] Stop spamming this distribution list - I take it you aren't dealing with the annoyance of a Blackberry chiming off every time someone adds to the discussion. I like being on this list to hear about events, but this discussion stuff is really annoying. | James | Nov 3, 2009 |
| Re: [atheists-215] Stop spamming this distribution list - Thanks Norm - I agree. I've enjoyed the discussions and actually looked forward to finding new responses every morning. It's more convenient for me to follow this in my email than in a discussion group, since I have to check m | Lani Bartman | Nov 3, 2009 |
| Re: [atheists-215] Stop spamming this distribution list - It's tough, though. A lot of us, I assume, subscribe for announcements, not discussion, and this level of traffic makes us want to unsubscribe. There's only so many inbox rules I'm going to create for this thread before leaving, in which case I'd miss | Blake Caldwell | Nov 3, 2009 |
| RE: [atheists-215] Stop spamming this distribution list - I do get amused at the things we invent to be bothered by. At the risk of angering anyone, is a terse demand to stop "spamming" really necessary? Is the buildup of intangible letters in your e-mail really that much of a problem? I will be happy to use a | Norm Richmond | Nov 3, 2009 |
| RE: [atheists-215] Stop spamming this distribution list - | Mike | Nov 3, 2009 |
| Re: [atheists-215] sorry - Preview not available | Ron | Nov 3, 2009 |
| Re: [atheists-215] Stop spamming this distribution list - I really enjoyed the email debate (sniping excluded) and didn't think it was spam. CAV On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 5:56 AM, George wrote: > The mailing list is for both discussions and announcements, although ideally > the discu | Charlotte | Nov 3, 2009 |
| Re: [atheists-215] Stop spamming this distribution list - The mailing list is for both discussions and announcements, although ideally the discussion board would be a better place for lengthy conversations. Personally I'd like to encourage more d | George | Nov 3, 2009 |
| RE: [atheists-215] Stop spamming this distribution list - Apologies, Leonardo, no one ever replies on the message board and I hav | Janice Rael | Nov 3, 2009 |
| Re: [atheists-215] Stop spamming this distribution list - There's a bulletin board? On Nov 3, 2009, at 12:47 AM, Ferit T?zer wrote: | Dave Mauriello | Nov 3, 2009 |
| Re: [atheists-215] Stop spamming this distribution list - maybe the moderator can open another email list just for announcements etc. I personally would never go check the bulletin board. On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 12:43 AM, Leonardo < | Ferit Tüzer | Nov 3, 2009 |
| Stop spamming this distribution list - Please stop sending emails to this distribution list. Please use the bulletin boards. | Leonardo | Nov 3, 2009 |
| Re: [atheists-215] Seeking marriage-minded PA couple - Look, if I was on trial I'd probably put my hand on that thing and swear just for appearances, but for my own marriage I'm not. Screw what most people want or believe. Now I have to side with those here who feel like this couple were being a bit | Dave Mauriello | Nov 3, 2009 |
| Re: [atheists-215] Seeking marriage-minded PA couple - Really? The issue here is not "a lot of people" but non-believers having to swear by the bible, if the accusation is true. If I were marrying today, I would take up this offer in order to provide evidence of infringement of personal liberties. | Ferit Tüzer | Nov 2, 2009 |
| Re: [atheists-215] Seeking marriage-minded PA couple - I wouldn't be horribly bothered by having to put my hand on the bible. A lot of the "hand on the bible" is just about swearing that something is the truth, and since a lot of people take the bible seriously, that is the only book people can | Becky | Nov 2, 2009 |
| Re: [atheists-215] Seeking marriage-minded PA couple - Preview not available | James | Nov 2, 2009 |
| Re: [atheists-215] Seeking marriage-minded PA couple - I don't believe the issue is just this couple -- they could sue on their own if they felt like they had been discriminate | Jon Marquis | Nov 2, 2009 |
| Re: [atheists-215] Seeking marriage-minded PA couple - On Nov 2, 2009, at 9:10 PM, Jon Marquis wrote: > This is sounding like a non-issue to me. The couple apparently didn't > try saying "no thanks" to the Bible, they just went ahead because they > felt uncomfortable. While eventually we should do | William | Nov 2, 2009 |
| Re: [atheists-215] Seeking marriage-minded PA couple - | Robin | Nov 2, 2009 |
| RE: [atheists-215] Seeking marriage-minded PA couple - cheez...when my darlin' and I tied the knot 3 years ago, we simply told | Cari | Nov 2, 2009 |
| Re: [atheists-215] Seeking marriage-minded PA couple - This is sounding like a non-issue to me. The couple apparently didn't try saying "no thanks" to the Bible, they just went ahead because they felt uncomfortable. While eventually we should do away with any sort of religion in legal ceremoni | Jon Marquis | Nov 2, 2009 |
| Re: [atheists-215] sorry - i agree, casper. people need to let go of their egos a bit here. On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 6:33 PM, Casper < [address removed] > wrote: | laylamosh | Nov 2, 2009 |
| RE: [atheists-215] Seeking marriage-minded PA couple - it is my understanding that a couple went to be married locally (Media | Janice Rael | Nov 2, 2009 |
| Re: [atheists-215] Seeking marriage-minded PA couple - Could we get more info on this story? Is it just PA and CO with self uniting options? We just got married this past summer in DE at the courthouse | Dave Mauriello | Nov 2, 2009 |
| Seeking marriage-minded PA couple - This is a forwarded message from Margaret Downey, please pass it on if | Janice Rael | Nov 2, 2009 |
| Re: [atheists-215] sorry - Preview not available | Casper | Nov 2, 2009 |
| Re: [atheists-215] sorry - We (the organizers) had hoped there would be no need for moderation, but this is getting a little out of hand I agree. I'm going to re-post the list rules & expectations, and request that we try to discuss things in a considerate manner. | George | Nov 2, 2009 |
| Re: [atheists-215] sorry - Hello all, I have been very interested in the long dialogue that was sparked from Mr. Wilder's video. Dialogue and the exchange of ideas is good, especially if we have different perspectives. Our differences only inform us more of how others see an is | Vanessa | Nov 2, 2009 |
| Re: [atheists-215] sorry - Preview not available | Norm Richmond | Nov 2, 2009 |
| Re: [atheists-215] sorry - Preview not available | Peter | Nov 2, 2009 |
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