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Science is the source

A former member
Posted Dec 27, 2007 7:17 AM
Post #: 1
I'd like to chime in here. I've not had a chance to attend a meeting and get to know people yet. I RSVPed for the wrong one the first time(sorry about that).I'd like to say a few words before I attend my first meeting so that everyone will understand where I'll be coming from.

I believe that the bibles and such writings are simply "scientific" books written to explain the phenomena of the time. In absence of understanding is ignorance and when ignorance is primary then you get perceptions that are misguided. The peoples that wrote these books were simply misinterpreting the world around them, applying as much humanity to it as possible. The morality and ethics they attached to these books were made from observations of the interactions of men with each other and the space around them. The reasons why the current religions won out from the thousands of others is simply stated; they were more human.

Having said that, let me now put forth a sampling of my own views which I derive from our current lot of more accurate science books...

1. Time is made up of space and every 'possible' thing in it
2. Waves and particles are the two forms of spatial energy, each representing a single idea of physical property in separate yet equal forms.
3. Particles are stationary perceptions in time and waves are ideas in motion.
4. There is no good or evil, energy only has two uses; efficient and inefficient.
5. Whether an action is efficient or not depends on the perceptual point in space/time.
6. There are two parts to space/time; a collective time/space that all particles share and an individual space/time that each man perceives.
7. Each physical law of space has a moral, ethical, and medicinal equivalent.
8. Space/time is individual for each particle point(Remember Einstein?).

I think that a large reason why religions are so hostile is that they are trying to prove their own human superiority. The natural universe could care less about who wins or loses, it's only concern is that we are efficient in our surroundings and what we have at hand. When we step beyond our means, as in not controlling our own population growth, the universe will correct our energy use. Nature treats a destructive force the same way human beings treat cancer, as an inefficient idea that needs to be controlled or expelled.

I don't need a bible to tell that I should do unto others as I wish, either. This idea is simply another physical law of space, the equivalent Exchange of Energy says that you get out of something an equal amount of energy, efficient or otherwise, as you put into it. Example: If you beat a child his whole life and show that child nothing but inefficient ideas then that child will grow up to be a like mind individual.

I see every discipline of thought at odds with one another and it bothers me greatly. I submit that in order to have an accurate knowledge of space/time, that we must account for "EVERY" phenomena, including religion, science, philosophy, etc... Whether an idea is correct isn't of any consequence, what matters is the efficiency of the idea at that time. Science says religion can't be real, religion says science is false but the are both properties of the same space/time and they both affect us. I'm not saying that religion is real or fake but it is never the less a manifestation of space, the same as you or me. Only when we can adequately explain and understand all basic fundamentals will we be able to sit back and take a break in our quest for true wisdom.

I would hope that this spurs on some discussion and I welcome any comments or questions for me to elaborate more.
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